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Old Tuesday 6th February 2007, 09:13 AM
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Hi,

as can be seen in my other post, my MB engine is in a rather messy state. Hence rather then rebuilding the MB, I am also considering the option of doing a 20V conversion.

No before I start that, I was wondering what the change in value for the car is. I currently recon that a good MB with newish engine will fetch somewhere around 5-6k. But what would the same car be worth with a 20V conversion. (lets assume very professionally done conversion)

Cheers for any inputs
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Old Tuesday 6th February 2007, 09:42 AM
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Hi,

as can be seen in my other post, my MB engine is in a rather messy state. Hence rather then rebuilding the MB, I am also considering the option of doing a 20V conversion.

No before I start that, I was wondering what the change in value for the car is. I currently recon that a good MB with newish engine will fetch somewhere around 5-6k. But what would the same car be worth with a 20V conversion. (lets assume very professionally done conversion)

Cheers for any inputs
Maybe Im daft I bought a 86 wr with a Qst 20v conversion, from what we can gather with a very low mileage engine, it came with a lot of bits and bobs that I was never going to use that I sold for 1.5k leaving the car standing me at 8k
Phils had a look at it and said it was a good un
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Old Tuesday 6th February 2007, 10:29 AM
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well the reason why I am asking is that the quattro will eventually (soon) become a classic and then start to go up in value. In such a case the original engine would make it more valuable. Also MBs are far more rare than WRs.

So will an MB with a 20V conversion be worth more or less than a MB with original engine???
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In the terms you are talking it has to be less because it will not be orignal
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Perhaps, but a sorted 20v runner is worth more than a knackered 10v non-starter
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Perhaps, but a sorted 20v runner is worth more than a knackered 10v non-starter
I went through all this before I bought mine, I paid over the odds, but looking at all the problems that arise on here with the 10v engines, you only need a couple of trips to the garage and your into silly money territory. if thats whats having fun in a quattros all about forget it. touch wood, I've just come up to 12 months of owning mine and it's not missed a beat, always started and run bob on, I drive fairly hard, I've snapped one exhaust bracket and Phil adjusted the gearlever and that fault was there when I bought it, not many quatty owners can say that for 12 months fun, and as a bit of a bonus it's not rusty.
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well the reason why I am asking is that the quattro will eventually (soon) become a classic and then start to go up in value. In such a case the original engine would make it more valuable. Also MBs are far more rare than WRs.

So will an MB with a 20V conversion be worth more or less than a MB with original engine???
Is there any real sign of them heading much north of where they are at the moment? Seems like the only people making money are those prepared to butcher them on ebay due to the NLA parts issues

As an enthusiast who one day would love a ur, I wouldn't personally mind a replacement engine, WR/MB or RR in whatever age shell. So if you ever sell your ur to me, don't fuss about sticking the 20v in

With the parts issue as it is I cannot keep my 83 80q or even 89 100 tq original without hideous amounts of trawling auction sites and breakers and wouldn't expect a seller of a ur to have done much different.

Just my 2p though

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Although I have a slightly biased opion (I'ver got a spare mb engine!) I would have to say my 10v had been totally reliable over many 1000s of miles until "the disaster" and they aren't known as a troublesome unit.
The advantage of a 20v engine is the opportunity to tune it, otherwise there isn't a huge difference in my humble.
However value wise for a conversion?
Well in my opinion, I don't think it would damage the value, but it wouldn't increase the value either.
They're always more people looking for the nearest to original they can get than people willing to take a chance on somebody elses conversion, no matter how well you do it.
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well the reason why I am asking is that the quattro will eventually (soon) become a classic and then start to go up in value. In such a case the original engine would make it more valuable. Also MBs are far more rare than WRs.

So will an MB with a 20V conversion be worth more or less than a MB with original engine???
One other thing how much is a 86 WR worth? it must increase the value, my insurance company after reading the spec of my car and seeing the reports and pictures have given it a guaranteed value of 12k
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> I went through all this before I bought mine, I paid over the odds, but looking at all the problems that arise on here with the 10v engines, you only need a couple of trips to the garage and your into silly money territory.

That's true for all of them. But - to be fair - you have one of the best 20V conversions I've seen. I'm sorry to say I've forgotten who did it ...

It's nice to walk up to an engine bay and not have to second-guess the bodges.
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